9.4.09

Limpopo Easter Weekend

This is an aerial photo of Moria City. You might ask: "What city?" but twice a year it turns into a city with around 1,5 million inhabitants.


It is the spiritual home of the Zion Christian Church (ZCC), the largest of the African indigenous churches in Southern Africa. Engenas Lekganyane founded the church in 1924 after reportedly receiving a revelation from God in 1910.

When Engenas died in 1948, his youngest son Joseph succeeded him as leader of the church. Edward, the eldest son, and traditional successor according to the African tradition, then started his own branch of the church and named it the St Engenas Zion Christian Church. The emblem of the original ZCC is a star and the St Engenas ZCC has a dove for an emblem. They are commonly known as the Star ZCC and the Dove ZCC.

The original church was influenced by the doctrines of the Christian Catholic Church of John Alexander Dowie, based in Zion, Illinois, and the teachings of the Pentecostal missionary John G. Lake, who began work in Johannesburg in 1908. The membership of the Star ZCC stands at approximately 15 million and the Dove ZCC at approximately 5 million.
Twice a year, over the Easter Weekend and on the first weekend in September, those members who possibly can, undertake a pilgrimage to Moria City; a barren area about 40 kilometres East of Polokwane in Limpopo. There is a small settlement at the site, but basically no infrastructure exists. (I cannot understand why basic amenities has never been built... after all, the week after Moria weekend, one of the ABSA Bank branches in Polokwane is closed to the general public in order to count and deposit the collection money from the weekend. The money, as I have been told by many members, are collected in 44 gallon drums!)


However, this lack of amenities does not stop around 1,5 million pilgrims from congregating at Moria City over the Easter Weekend. They come from all nine provinces of South Africa but mostly from Gauteng, North West, Mphumalanga and Limpopo, the most northern provinces. Over the last few years, some infrastructure, like tents, portable toilets and food stalls run by the church, have been provided but it is not nearly adequate to cater for 1,5 million people. However, such is the zeal of these worshippers that minor issues like this do not stop them from attending the major religious and social event on their calendar. The African way of worship includes much dancing and singing and very little time is spent sleeping during this weekend.
The town where I live lies just off the N1 freeway; the major road to Moria City and is traditionally the last (and in many cases the only) pit-stop on the way to Moria. About 2 000 busses alone, will pass through this little town during Thursday night and Friday morning and again during Sunday night and Monday. This is not mentioning all the taxis (10- and 16-seater busses) and private vehicles. As you can imagine, this has an enormous impact on the town.

Now you will understand why Naboomspruit has the biggest Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet in the country and why it stays open 24 hours a day!


PS: Apologies for the poor quality of the photo's, but I had to use what I could get.

09 November 2010.  To all who read here, please also read this post before commenting

77 comments:

Arley said...

Very interesting! Is there prayer involved or just dancing and singing?

Tim Bouwer said...

I drove past here on my way to the Kruger Park in October last year.

It was fairly desolate but I could see the expansive area off to the right and large pedestrian crossings on the road.

When I taught in Grahamstown, some of my students were Zionists and their descriptions of their gatherings were impressive.

A human kind of human said...

Hi Arley, Yes they do have sermons, prayer, fath healing and also a lot of prophesy. Remember, this is a very Africanised church. They themselves admit that they are not always sure whether it is the Holy Spirit or the forefather spirits speaking through them! The African people just do not do things the way other people do.

Thato M said...

Nice posting. Just a quick thing: "Edward, the eldest son, and traditional successor according to the African tradition, then started his own branch of the church and named it the St Engenas Zion Christian Church." This is inaccurate, Bishop Joseph Engenas Lekganyane is the one that added the name of the founder "St. Engenas" to the name ZCC to (among other reasons) establish distinction between the split churches. You are correct though in that Bishop Joseph was nominated by the founder to succeed him and it's the African Tradition that believes in the eldest son taking over that lead the confusion.

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zion_Christian_Church

A human kind of human said...

Hi Thato M, thanks for visiting and thanks for correcting my error. I would love to learn more about the ZCC and Moria City, so if you have more information, please pass it along, especially if it is first hand. I am very interested in African traditions and cultures but unfortunately find that when I start speaking about these things, my African friends seem to clam up. So I am open to education.

MM said...

Thank you so much for these refreshing story; I grew up in the church; the last time I attended easter Moria was in 1991 when i was 16 but I still miss it. we do not sleep there; you just take a quick nap and that's it. i used to sleep on Tuesdays. you can imagine exhaustion; we dance; sing and pray 24/7. it is amazing; I always tell my children that I will take them there on easter one day.
you can join any group there they will never say we dont know you; who is this. you can meet any prophet (we call them mabone which means light; i dont know the reason maybe because they can see things that many cant see) while walking around and they tell you your stories.
thank you.

A human kind of human said...

Thanks for visiting MM. I do hope you would make it back one day. Your children would miss out on not only a great religious experience but also a cultural one if they do not attend a Moria weekend. Yes, you will be made welcome by all. It is one of the African traits that I admire the most, their ability to socialise so easily and naturally. The Whites (definitely including myself) can really learn much from them in this regard.

Anonymous said...

Hi, I am a member the church is very African and it uses the language we as African understand. You are very right there is no fight amongst all 1.5-2m people attending the gathering the only language we use is peace be onto you , it doesn’t count what wrong you have done to me my respond will be peace onto you I wonder why we can’t use this as a example to our country

A human kind of human said...

HI Anonymous, thank you for visiting and commenting on my blog. I can just imagine the exitement at this gathering, also the sense of absolutely well-being that so many like-minded people must create.

I agree with you when you wish that this can become an example to all the people in our country. Even in the apartheids years I have had black and coloured friends and I find that nowadays, I am becomming more and more able to communicate on an equal level with the young people of our country. This was very difficult before as there was alwys a measure of distrust on both sides which I believe was mostly because of cultural differences and ignorance. Where I work there are a number of young (between 18 and 24) black, coloured and white people undergoing training and it really makes my day when they come into my office and sit and chat to me about normal everyday affairs. They call me Magogo or Tannie and often come to me for advice and assistance, so yes, maybe the ghosts of the past are slowly being laid to rest... I for one certaintly hope so.

Anonymous said...

i have realise that u realy want to know about our good church but i'm sorry to say it shall be good for u to visit the church elders for u to get theright information, so that u do not publish wrong infor about our only church we beleive it good for us

Anonymous said...

it is very adviseble to u , to get known by the peoble that u are interested to learn much about the church but then there is no one to give the right infor u r loooking for rather that from the church elders. and please if u got information do not diclose to every one keep it for your self.

Kwaaiman said...

I realy enjoy being in this fulfilling church,it just feel at home when ever im at church especialy "kodithaba tsa moria"i came into this church with no direction but now i feel headed sumwhere,but i believe it waz a calling,nd i say ZION NUMBER ONE,KGOTSONG

thina said...

kgotsong, lenna ke rata go tlaleletsa ka ga kereke ye ya rena e botse, ke dumela seo le se bolelaga ka gore lenna ke ngwana wa sione. KGOTSO EBE LE LENA

A human kind of human said...

Hi Thina, I would love to reply to your comment but as I cannot understand it, it is impossible. Could you perhaps translate it so that all the readers can understand. I have readers from all over the world and I am sure they would also want to know what you are saying, Regards, Human.

Abram said...

Patty

I'm happy that slowly but surely our church will be treated with respect and will be honoured by people from all races and cultures of the world without asking silly questions. Kgotso e ebe le lena.

A human kind of human said...

Dear Abram, I am so sorry if you find my questions silly. I am truly interested to learn about all aspects of the lives of fellow South Africans specifically in order to understand and form a genuine respect for them. Unfortunately respect does not just drop out of the sky, it is something that is acquired with knowledge of the subject. If I do not aske, I will not learn and thus I will never be able to feel genuine respect for your church and other cultural entities.

Abram said...

I apologise if I offended you. This is meant to annoying people who always ask if we pray the real God or are we just dancing and singing. That is why it’s called a church. We have a lot of prayer,church sermons and protocols that we follow. In fact, our believe is that nothing is more powerful than a prayer. KGOTSONG

A human kind of human said...

Hi Abram, it is now clear to me that I misunderstood what you meant with "silly questions". It is a fact that many white South Africans do not know what the doctrine of the ZCC is and given our country's history with xenophobia, I believe it is very important for us to get to know more about one another so that mutual respect can grow between us. Luckily I work in an environment where we are encouraged to talk and discuss culture, traditions and such over the colour and ethnic lines. I have a passion for making our New South African democracy work and I would love to start conversations with people of other cultures and traditions in order to promote understanding and acceptance amongst us. So please, if you have questions for me about my culture and traditions, let me know. Kgotso e ebe le lena.

Make information work said...

I love the church ZCC. I am one of the believers, this is the church I have really experienced God's miracles, seen it with my eyes. In the bible God says nothing is impossible that means nothing is impossible the statement is true. People get healed in mysterious things you have never seen in your life. You have to believe and you will realise the greatness of God

thabane said...

our church is not african,it is on its own.it operate according to how God want it to operate,with reference >4rm de holy bible.people must stop lying about our church.u cannot knw abt zion from the net,if u want a concrete truth about it, u shud consult relevent people @ the head quaters and also make a good distinction between the 2 churches in >order to stop confusing people.

Anonymous said...

Thabane is right. please visit the church and be specific of the church that you are writting about. the two churches are different hence their names. If you are talking about ZCC say so. and if you are talking about St. Engenas ZCC specify please. and for your advice the latter church don't go public with its affairs please read Matthew 6:5-6. Internet information is not correct so please visit whichever church you want to write about and the enterance is FREE they wont charge you if indeed you need to learn about this beautiful church. The history of the church is with the Bishop of the church please. Protocol must be observed. I am a member of St.Engenas ZCC

Anonymous said...

Kgotsong Moria is the holy place,there is no time to play there we pray and get healed.

Kgotsofalang said...

Please respect the wishes of both churches members that any information regarding the roots and foundations of the churches must be refered to senior members of the church.MaSione sa rena ke thapelo le go rata kereke ya gaborena go fete tsohle tsa lefase. E bile motheo wa kereke ye ya Sione ke boikilelo le sephiri.Modimo wa Engenas a be le lena ka moka.

A human kind of human said...

Hi there Kgotsofalang. Thank you for visiting my blog, even though I could not understand half of your comment. I can only hope that it was friendly and if you are interested, I have published a new post regarding the ZCC churches. I hope that post will make my intentions and feelings towards ZCC and the followers clear.

MPHAHLELE THATO DAVID said...

KGOTSONG,I WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO INFORM ALL THE VIEWERS OR VISITORS ON THIS SIDE THAT,ZION CHRISTIAN CHURCH WILL ALWAYS BE ZION CHRISTIAN CHURCH,ZCC ON ITSELF IS UNIQUE,U MAY BE A MEMBER THERE FOR 90 YEARS,BUT BELIEVE ME YOU KNOW N0THING,I AM PAPTISED IN THE CHURCH IN 2004 AT THE AGE OF 17,AND FOR THAT MATTER I GREW UP IN THIS CHURCH I LIKE IT AND NOTHING WILL TAKE ME OUT THERE,AM ALSO ASSISTANT SECRETARY AT PODUNGWANE,AND I THOUGHT I KNOW IT,ONLY TO FIND THAT AM WRONG,EVERYDAY I LEARN NEW THINGS,WHAT I KNOW SINCE I WAS YOUNG IS THAT,ZION CHRISTIAN CHURCH STRIVE TO ENSURE PEACE WITHIN FAMILY STRUCTURES,GOVERNMENTAL DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO TO STRENGTHEN MORAL VIBRE BETWEEN YOUTHS AND THE ELDERS,POOR AND RICH,EDUCATED AND UNEDUCATED,TEACHERS AND LEARNERS,EMPLOYER AND EMPLOYEE,OUR SPIRITUAL LEADER PREACHES ON LOVE,TOLERANCE AND PEACE.
OUR CHURCH LEADERSHIP LOVES AND TREAT EVERYONE WITH RESPECT,BUT AM SORRY IF YOU ARE A CRIMINAL NO ROOM FOR YOU.THAT IS WHAT OUR SPIRITUAL LEADER HATES ALOT.ONE MORE THING MOST PEOPLE FAIL TO UNDERSTANT IS THE POSITION OF ZCC IN POLITICAL SPHERE.YES, POLITICAL LEADERS VISIT THE CHURCH EVERY CONFERENCE,BUT YOU MUST NOTE THAT THEY ARE THERE TO PRAY NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS,THE CHURCH DOES NOT CONCERN ITSELF WITH A CERTAIN POLITICAL PARTY,OR TO SUPPORT ANY POLITICAL PARTY,AND IT DOES NOT ENCOURAGE ITS MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR CERTAIN PARTY,BUT TO GO AND VOTE THAT IS THAT AS TO WHICH PARTY THE CHURCH IS NOT INTERESTED.

THE SCRIPTURES OF MY FAVOURATE:
PSALM 2(THE WHOLE OF IT)
ISAAH 42(THE WHOLE OF IT)
PSALM 48(THE WHOLE OF IT)
ACTS 20 VERSES 25AND 28
1ST CORENTHIANS 14 VERSE 34

mmatlou said...

ST.Engenas ZCC is not opened to the media entertainment, e theilwe godimo ga leswika la nhla le motheo ke mong wa yona, so you better try next door to get stories to write about, ya papa ga se ya go raloka

A human kind of human said...

Welcome MPHAHLELE THATO DAVID and mmtlou. Thank you for visiting my blog and leaving comments. One I experienced as friendly and informative and the other as rather hostile. I guess I will never understand why my interest in these churches seem to upset certain members of the ZCC churches. It saddens me when I experience aggresion from a brother or sister in Christ, no matter which denomination he or she is from. After all, we serve the same God and use the same Bible as our guide. (Was the last scripture on your list a hint MTD? - smile)

Anonymous said...

I write this believing that it will give you the final resolution. The people who can give you the best information about the church are the bishops of the two churches, first hand information. From my personal opinion it is the first born church of God layed upon the rock of ages and not the mountain of trembling as anticipated with Moses in Sinai. This is the center of all celestial laws that shall be given to all humanity. This is the mountain spoken of in the book of Hebrews 12:1 To the end, I hope this will be your first wake to stay focused and watch. It is not easy to convince anyone as this is the predestinated word. The word must have life which is the spirit of God to live and makes one to understand the scriptures. The prophet Isaiah asked,"who has beleived our report and to whom is the arm of the lord revealed". I say the nations are so desparate in seeking the truth of God but the word is covered with gross darkness and the vail of covering as stated by the Prophet Isaiah. My understanding of the scripture is that the lord himself shall remove in zion the vail that covereth the nations. The name Zion shall never cofuse you anymore, I clearly understand that we have authentic Zions in the face of the earth,one in Jerusalem, another one in Michigan USA. and another one in South Africa, I already know what your next question is. The answer to that shall be given to you if the Lord allows me to do so. Please pray harder and ask God to give you wisdom to fear Him and understand all things. It is good before God that you desire to know, that shows the seed that has life. Thank you

Warm Love said...

These are sister churches with same practices. The members of both churches need each other to overcome previaling social and economic challenges ---poverty, unemployment, HIV/AIDS pandemic, education etc. They are blessed with strong spiritual leadership. Peace to all.

Anonymous said...

kgotsong le nna i am a zionist of st engenas.i am sure you havent seen this church on tv or the bishop so pls stop seeking for information because kereke ye ga se ya go raloka.ke kereke ya sephiri.and again the information that is here is wrong because the chosen heir is bishop joseph engenas lekganyane of the st engenas zcc.

Siphokazi Zale said...

Last year after a lot of delibaration, I finally converted to become a member of Z.C.C it has not been a walk in the park but i do not regret my decisio even for one moment.

Even though there are inaccurate parts of the blog i am glad that, such a platform has been created. The church is misunderstood by a lot of people, saying it is a church for whichcraft.

What they think is witchcraft is just God's power at work.

Let us talk about the miracles, we have come to experience, there is nothing wrong about our Church so we have nothing to hide.

Modimo wabo Engenas ore file bophelo ha se sephiri.

Make information work said...

The only thing I can tell you about ZCC church is that God Tells you your future you do not leave in the dark even the past god is able to take you back and tell you what happened, I dont regret not even once in my life I will die a ZCC no matter what. I have seen God's miracles its not a joke. There is no whitchcrat done by the church. This is about an individual who comes to church and do terrible things knowing very well that God does not like it. This happens in all churches. You sit next to a witchcraft person everyday every where and any where I like to take this oppportunity and thank Jesus for call me to be a ZCC

MOTLOUNG said...

IF YOU WANT THE TRUETH PRAY AND READ THE BIBLE AND VISIT THE CHURCH AND PLEASE RESPECT THE WAYS OF ZION.MY FRIEND I AM GLAD YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE CHURCH OF BISHOP LEKGANYANE BUT THIS IS NOT AWAY IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO ON THE NET WATCH PORN THIS CHURCH IS NOT A PLAYTHING OR A CHART THING I AM REALY CROSSED WITH WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND TO ALL MASIONE KGOTSO EBE LELONA! DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THIS THINGS THIS PEOPLE MANIPULATE WHAT EVER INFORMATION YOU SAY TO GET THIER GOLS Z.C.C STAR IF YOU ARE BORED GO AND READ MASSANGER IT'S YOUR BOOK ABOUT THE CHURCH AND YOU Z.C.C DOVE YOU GO AND SING CHOIR. PEACE BE UNTO YOU ALL AND MAY THE GRACE OF OUR LORD JESUS CRIST BE UNTO YOU ALL IN THE NAME OF OUR LEADER.

Thabo Mojela said...

Hi All,


Let us thank the injunctions of this church and God's mercy for giving us such a loving Bishop. Members of the ZCC please let us not disapponit the Bishop and His God he shalll not mislead us.

Truly The Right Reverend Bishop Dr B.E Lekganyane is a force to be reckoned with :) Members of the Church if we think about the Bishop's emotional sermon in Moria Easter 2011 then I don't see how we have a right to stray from this churches laws!

Thank you God for this church, and its chosen Leadership.

Amen

Thabo makoa said...

Kereke ya s.t engenas z.c.c hase boralokelong ke kereke yaho rapela lentswe la modimo amen

Thabo makoa said...

Kereke ya s.t engenas z.c.c hase boralokelong ke kereke yaho rapela lentswe la modimo amen

MDM said...

Lovely people of Christ,Please stop being stubling blocks to the progress of the two churches.The mission and vission of both churches stays the same ,is to spread the word of The Most High God.Let us support both Bishops to spread the the peace not to take sides.We all belong to Koko Engenas the founder.Zionists pls stay focused,the enemy is roaring like a lion looking forward to destroy the bond of both churches,Let us not allow that.Peace be unto us all.

Anonymous said...

In life you dont judge a book by its cover because you cannot GUESS whats inside it.
Example:
eg: let the book=St Engenas ZCC,
Computationally:=- GUESS==FALSE;
but for St Engenasians GUESS==TRUE
because we know the mighty power of our GOD,hence GUESSES wont influence God's DECISIONS.-ppyLENKO

ppyLENKO said...

As a very proud St Engenasian I say,"Everything happens for a reason,so the ZCC came for its people.If you know that you're not one of them,PLEASE go where you belong and leave us alone because its our right to choose our beliefs.-ppyLENKO

Ngwana ya Modimo said...

kgotsong,peace be unto u.im a proud member of the z.c.c church.speaking afrikaans and being coloured makes it a challenge,but God of Bishop Engenas leads me in my life in a language that i too can understand. I have never been so much at peace with myself, i get a message everytime i cum from church.like all other churches ur faith and believe will set u free. Peace be unto u my fellow brothers and sisters!

Anonymous said...

Kgotsong setjhaba sa Modimo. i jst wish u can all STOP what u doing, kereke ye ST.ENGENAS hase moralokelo,. as someone have said hore u haven't see its Bishop on Media, so stop messing things here on the net. the only thing u'll get here its FALSE information notyhing else. so if i were u i would STOP it ASAP because for real u don't know what u doing. even the owner of this SITE doesn't know what to do with His/Her money i can see that, u should have gave it as a donation to charity or orphanage or care centre or something. if you say that you interested on knowing why don't u visit the "church" that will let u publish it not this one...someone has already said that you should try next door...lol...lona masione le tseba hantle hore seo le se etsang se wrong but u let "this" people to manipulate u to give information ofwhich u don't know cos u only giving lies, maka, boshako, boshana, false stories, sies mahn masion...anyway i wish our good Lord God can get into your Heart so to obay Barongwa ba hae...u who keep on visiting the site and give lies maybe u should be warned...u jst had it coming...peace be unto u. kgotso e be le lena...Amen
Proudly ST.ENGENAS Z.C.C'an

A human kind of human said...

After the latest comment I re-read my original post to see what in it could possibly give offence to worshippers of ZCC. I could find nothing. To those who get upset with the post, please remember that people from accross the globe reads my blog and I try to give them a basic but positive picture of my country and its life style. In future no offensive comments will be published. I never meant to harm or upset anybody and I still believe that my post is an honest portrayal of this church with nothing to give offence. Please if you have something positive to add, by all means, comment. However, if you have negative critique or feelings, keep it to yourself. I remain respectful to the church and members of it, so I expect the same from them. God bless.

Anonymous said...

Hi there everyone. I am a member of the ZCC, actually I was born into ZCC parentage and was baptised when I came of age. it appears the church is an enigma to a lot of people. But to me as a member, the whole story derives from the work of the holy spirit. When I studied theology part time for my own spiritual enrichment, I became even more compellingly clear that the ZCC operates under divine guidance. The Bishop is led by the Holy Spirit in the leadership of the Church, and Zionists are also obliged by the Holy Spirit to live their lives on earth in the way that pleases and glorifies God as a precursor to inheriting the Kingdom of God. The ZCC has beautifully blended African culture with the Gospel of Christ, and this partly explains the stability in ZCC member families, their inner peace and strong work ethic for productive/fruitful and healthy lives. The bishops of the ZCC and St. Engenas ZCC have been divinely appointed to lead their people to eternal life under the auspices of the Lord Jesus Christ. Kgotsong, Peace be unto you!

Tshego said...

First of all i would like to start by saying Peace be unto u. I am a member of the Zoin Christian Church, i grew up in this church and i know its greatness. Zcc needs people who are patient in God and those who believe in him. Bt my comment is on the quarrel of the two churches, mainly zcc and st Angenus zcc, people this is one church and we should act as one, no church is better than the other because we serve ONE living God, and yes we knw that ke kereke ya sephiri. It humbles me to knw that there are people interestd in our church, bt the best experience is if u are there urself. Dont chase peopld away by being all arrogant, our church welcomes everybody rich or poor. Practice the respect u are taught by the elders everywhere u go. Peace be unto u.

Anonymous said...

People are too keen to comment I think. Its good for the blog but the quality of the comments suffer.
Wouldn't you like to digest some of the new info to include what you can confirm as true? It is rare to find a good article on this matter. It would be a pleasure to read one here, as a first.

Khaza said...

Between the two churches which one is powerful than the other? I like to know please

A human kind of human said...

Dear Khaza, I do not know which one is more powerful and I am not sure what exactly you mean by your question. I believe that when it comes to worshiping and serving the Lord, power should not enter into it as after all, He is the all-powerful One.

thabakgone said...

Dear blogger how about u visiy zion city moria if u really wanna know about my church

Anonymous said...

what is kgotsong

Anonymous said...

mara le a phapha....how many times should we tel u that stop talking about kereke ya St Engenas ZCC? KE KEREKE YE sephiri.pls.ANDPLEASE DONT CONFUDE THE TWO CHURCHES.THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.U HAVENT SEEN BISHOP WA ST ENGENAS ZCC ON THE MEDIA SO PLEASE PEOPLE STOP DOING THAT AND EXPOSISING KEREKE YA BAHWADUBA ON THE MEDIA.

Anonymous said...

Peace unto you all, as a very proud ZCC member we must thank God for bringing us such an Honourable sprititual leader his grace the right rev Dr BE Lekganyane SA attained peace because of him if we racall back in 1992 and 1994 all political leaders gathered at Zion City Moria will the soil aim of peace which we all enjoy today. Be Lekganyane has been to 9 provinces of SA spreading the word of peace even as far as Botwsana, Lesotho,Zimbabwe and Zambia

Anonymous said...

Kgotsong fellow zionist,
Easter is up on us, as we are jst a month away lets pray for us to arrive safe.
NB: last years Easter conference was a success as 8 690 611 people that manage to attend at Zion City Moria includind many many Kgoshis, political people, Namibian govenor, Patrice Motsepe, Dr Irvin Khoza and so many other important guests. ZCC is huge we have members as far as Turkey, UK, America and Africa as a whole.
God of mount Zion knows no border gate, a trip from Moria to any country is not that long for him. Let us meet at Zion City Moria
Peace...

Crispen Tobaiwa said...

Thats quite interesting but i want to know whether both ZCCs members (ST Engenas ZCC Dove badge & ZCC BE Lekhangane star badge)combine at easter at Moria?

Anonymous said...

Peace unto to you, I'm a ZCC member,
I do not know how many members went to St engenas ZCC. Normally we use same route when going to Zion City Moria.

Anonymous said...

To respect God is to respect your fellow human being.i respect your thirst 4 knowledge and people should b polite speakers in respond.jesus taught us compassion and kindness.i am not a member of zcc but i know that all nations will meet at mount zion.our spiritual home in heaven where we shall meet our lord.(n.b) if witchcraft and african evil energies could work on white people, it(witchcraft) would be regarded as a crime.but because it only works on us africans ,it is regarded as a myth.God heard our cries and send his angels to save us.the lekganyane family are angels of God.before christianity existed they were divine healers using water and herbs (tea) to heal people.to be allowed a church they had to pass white man's christianity protocols.

Make information work said...

I great you. I must say even though you want to know about the church. Its better you visit for more undertanding. Our church does not like to be public with the activities becuase people from outside dont understand the what is happening they begin to misinterprete things. I love this church becuase God speak to you directly and whatever he tells is the truth. You will never go wrong if you follow what God you must do but if you are ZCC and attend the Witchcraft than you are in trouble with God. I love this church with all my heart and no one on earth can convince its like I have seen God with my eyes. You need to ask yourself why so many people? Other people think we worship bishop that is not true and people must learn to be open minded not narrow minded

A human kind of human said...

To all my ZCC friends I wish to extend the very best Easter wishes. My you arrive safely at Zion City and again home after the weekend. May you reveive many blessings during your pilgrimage to Moria.
Kind regards, Human.

Anonymous said...

Indeed the Congregation was well attend as we've seen the government official remembering where the government comes from as Zuma stated......we did pray to God that all the World might be protected by the love of God nd peace be maintained worldwide....so I assume people should leave the issue of Bahwaduba familly as it is nd focus on praying God through the beautiful name of St Engenas.....we mst learn to respect, love nd care abt any other religion,culture nd most of all any believe....so I urge everyone b protected by de love of God......"Peace be unto you" nd if u want to know how many people attended the ST Engenas this easter.......jst Pick up the spade nd pick de Soil up start counting den u will know how many we where there...same goes to our beloved ZCC chuch memebers if u wnt 2 know abt dem same process......ST Engenas Zion ChristiaN church or ZCC they are here to save the lost spirit,craete peace amongst the people of this world nd help in teaching nd preaching the word of God through Christ....Amen!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Nice post. Indeed it was well attended. Let's all praise the power of God and worship well. With prayers our country will be a better place. Kgotsong Masione

Anonymous said...

Peace unto you Zionist, I greet you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. I must say ZCC has grown despite being often scriticized. The crowd that assembled at Moria proves that Zion is here to stay. The high light of the Easter weekend was the sermon delivered by his grace the right rev Dr BE Lekganyane I qoete' ihave noticed lately that you dont want to pray and yet you want a better life, how will you get healed if dont pray? How will you get jobs if you dont want to pray? I urge you to pray every day of your lives and when you pray ask for wisdom, forgiveness , unity and peace. God of this church will answer your prayers". In just to weeks time we will be conducting a prayer meeting in Namibia to pray for Namibian government tell you what Namibia is about to see a massive prayer meeting will the soul purpose of spreading the word of pace and unity.

Anonymous said...

please for more info about the church go to the leaders,visit the head quarters you will be assisted.the churches are all about procedures and respect so follow the protocol,same as all the members are doing if you are really interested to know about the churches.AND IF I WERE TO ASK WHY DO YOU WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THE CHURCHES WHERE ARE YOU TAKING THE INFORMATION

Anonymous said...

please for more info about the church go to the leaders,visit the head quarters you will be assisted.the churches are all about procedures and respect so follow the protocol,same as all the members are doing if you are really interested to know about the churches.AND IF I WERE TO ASK WHY DO YOU WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THE CHURCHES WHERE ARE YOU TAKING THE INFORMATION

Anonymous said...

please for more info about the church go to the leaders,visit the head quarters you will be assisted.the churches are all about procedures and respect so follow the protocol,same as all the members are doing if you are really interested to know about the churches.AND IF I WERE TO ASK WHY DO YOU WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THE CHURCHES WHERE ARE YOU TAKING THE INFORMATION

Anonymous said...

Peace unto to you all, I recently attended the Easter Conference at Zion City Moria and the total number of people that gathered there was 9 431 001 and Bishop BE Lekganyane delivered a hard hitting sermon. To quote him Let as read from the book of Mathew chapter 27 verse 3-6 which reads thus: Then Judas , his betrayer seeing that He had been condemned was remorseful and brought back the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders saying: I have sinned by betraying innocent blood' and they said What is that to us? You see to it. Then He three down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed and went and hanged himself. But the chief priests took the silver pieces of and said, it is not lawful to put them into treasury because they are the price of blood. Just like the church elder referred above 'THE ZCC DOES NOT WANT DIRTY MONEY AS A DONATION. YOU ARE WARNED AS MEMBERS AND NON MEMBERS WHO AMASS WEALTH.'
Easter Monday is known as the day of resurrection of christ nd resurrection also mean renewal or rebirth. Have you changed your ways of life? Will the old person, the one full of gossip, hatred for other people be gone when you live Moria? Will the old person, the irresponsible parent be gone when you live Moria?
Peace!
Will a new mosione be born in your heart when you live Moria?.

Anonymous said...

But that "blood money" came from the treasury of the high-priests in the first place. They were the ones that put Jesus' blood on it. And now they want to play righteous and not accept/admit to the crime they committed? I find that rather hypocritical; but then again, maybe it was done to fulfill the prophecies. Funny how that was juxtaposed to the ZCC.

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Malefo Ramaboka said...

If o nyaka go ipshina ka bophelo please people just leave our church alone. Kereke ya Tshehla a se ya go raloka.All the information you have posted here the journalist are incorrect please respect other peoples privacy or otherwise you are going to regret what you deserve. May the good lord of ST Engenase be with you

Anonymous said...

Initially the only insignia was the green and black cloths (badge) for the church. The blue/silver dove and the silver star were only introduced after 1949 to signify the different churches. It is therefore wrong for you to say the star was the original sign or badge. The church is actually reintegrating to fulfill St Engenas' prophecy that his church is going to divide but will again reunite. We all wish it could happen in our lifetime that St Engenas ZCC will once again become it. St Engenas ZCC.

Anonymous said...

Where did you find such info if may ask?

Anonymous said...

Proverbs 2 vs5 to 7 Yo bohlale o tlodikwa,a atelwa ke mahlale;le wa maitse a huma dikeletso,a hlaloganya peo ya diema le merere,le mmolelelo wa bahlale, le diphiri tsa bona.Go boifa Morena ke gona gothoma tsebo,Bohlale le thuto di nyatswa ke masilom.to you my sister and others in the book of revelation by king James vision it teaches us not to extand or shortern the teaching of the book of God,So my question to you all is if God was black was that ok or do we prefer everything to be white like snow refer to dictionery the Ord WHITE and BLACK thank you

Makgoka said...

Ga ke tshepe goba godumela gore Bokoko Mmasebola ba ka dumellana le wena ka se ofetsang gosebolela potsiso yaka go wena ere ge ele gore ka nnete ga se kereke ya goraloka goreng o galifile gakaka kena le thumelo le tshepo gore Bo kgosi Moruti Mmantlakan ba ka se thabele seo Psalm 133 ebolela ka unity so help those who are interested in your church behave like Modumedi Shalom

Makgoka said...

Bjale mmotse month ya goralokwela ke efe le gona lebaka ele eng? Go osena klarabo bula mahlo o hlalefe Bathomi ba kereke ye ya sion babolelwa ka kereke ye ya Modimo wa Thaba sion batho ba goswana le lena le nyatsisa baetapelo bakereke ye ka mashilo bo dowie the westernised most Africans they don't what is real and what is not so stop being confused and educate those are in darkness Matt 7 vs 13-16 ere letlabitswa letsai la lefase fela geleka thapa ga lesana mohola efela ke go gatwa la lahlwa, ga seetsa sa lena se swane le ngedi gore motho mang le mang a se lahlege (a lebone reka lebea fase gotafola goba sehlomong nna) thoma go e potsisa gore a na bosione bagao ke ba makgonthe na ke ba tlisa lesedi goba lefifi!

Anonymous said...

Nope in fact the star symbol was always used, Nandos came later.We all hope to see the church come togerther in our life time to see ZCC Star become what is alway been the ZCC Star. The Dove is justthere to gather up memebers for us.

Anonymous said...

Kgotsong. People please let's not talk on behalf of the church , either be both churches let's not alter words, because the appointed people to speak for the church are found at church, so please I beg of you ka moya wa kgotso let's not. Because we will rise conflict of something we have heard and enjoy saying on the internet. So I beg let's stop all this. To the creator of this block I greet you with peace and humble myself upon you and gently ask you to not continue if you want information about these churches you must go to moria and ask permission also to post on the net because publicating something like these you need permission from the elders of the church. Thank you may the Lord bless you and be with you . I thank you :)

Anonymous said...

Kgotsong. People please let's not talk on behalf of the church , either be both churches let's not alter words, because the appointed people to speak for the church are found at church, so please I beg of you ka moya wa kgotso let's not. Because we will rise conflict of something we have heard and enjoy saying on the internet. So I beg let's stop all this. To the creator of this block I greet you with peace and humble myself upon you and gently ask you to not continue if you want information about these churches you must go to moria and ask permission also to post on the net because publicating something like these you need permission from the elders of the church. Thank you may the Lord bless you and be with you . I thank you :)

peatkinsey said...

Kgotso! I was an American Peace Corps Volunteer teacher in Botswana, 1992-1995, and I travelled to Moria, South Africa, with some of the people of Seleka, Botswana, for the Easter Celebration of 1993. On Easter Sunday, I was baptised at Moria, and given a star to wear. I went because 'the people of the star' I'd met in Botswana were some of the kindest, humblest, and most honest folks I'd ever met.

I remember very well that week-end. It changed my life forever. I didn't understand much of what went on around me

I returned to visit Africa and my 'rebirth' place just before Christmas there at Zion City in 2004... and attended a church service in Khaleyetsa (spelling?) a big township near Capetown.

peatkinsey said...

thank you for running this blog. I have wanted to reconnect, to see what was thought of the zcc, for a long while